Time or Money: How to Book Calls People Actually Show Up To (Podcast Ep. 4)

Yousif Alias · 2026-10-23 · 12 min listen

Time or Money: How to Book Calls People Actually Show Up To

This episode comes from a training Yousif Alias ran for new appointment setters. It starts with what actually keeps a business alive, then gets practical: how to answer the "I'll just do it myself" objection, how to sound like a person on the phone, and how to book calls that people show up to.

Ads alone don't make a business

Results come from the whole thing working together: the ads, the AI, the follow-up systems, and someone calling the leads and building a relationship. Online videos tell people they just need AI. Yousif's list is longer: a registered business, a bank account, and enough money to stay in business for six to twelve months.

He has seen plenty of owners quit an industry after three months because that's all the money they had. He keeps a two-year runway. Staying in business is the part most people fail at.

Time or money

Nobody hands you success. You can walk business to business and prospect eight hours a day for free, or you can pay for ads and have clients come to you. "You can go and hunt for your food. It's free. But you can also DoorDash it for 20 bucks." That's how he answers the prospect who wants to do it all themselves.

The owner still has to show up

Some owners pay for marketing and expect the agency to do the closing too. Yousif doesn't buy it. If his sales team isn't calling, he calls the leads. If nobody is closing, he jumps in and closes. A team that watches the owner make money with or without them tends to work harder.

Sound like a person, not a script

He calls everyone 30 minutes before their appointment and keeps it light: "You got all your ducks in a row? You out of bed?" Robotic openers tell the prospect they're talking to a salesperson before you've said anything useful.

He role-plays a call with a Facebook lead. He mentions when the lead signed up, asks what kind of business they run, and then asks the questions himself: are you making sales, do you have a team, do you use a CRM, who does your books. You want to be the one qualifying them, not the one answering "yes sir, we do that."

Build anticipation before you book

Anybody can agree to an appointment. What gets them to show up is wanting to see what's on the other side. Yousif can often tell from a setter's recording whether a call will show. When the setter built real interest, the person shows and often closes fast.

Talk about the result, not the product. Ask where they are now and where they want to be. Ask if there's any reason they wouldn't make it. And when they push for price early, take it away: "Hold on, I don't think you should go with us yet. What's your sales process? Do you have anything set aside to invest?"

Do one thing for a long time

Yousif says there have been months when his agency spent more than all its revenue on ads. That's what it took. The alternative is becoming the person who does something new every year until nobody trusts them. Do one thing well for a long time and people come back.

Full episode transcript

00:00like if you're gonna run ads and spend money make sure you do it right that's that's why we're here at the end of the day like yesterday um i closed a deal and the main reason she went with me is because all the other guys she'd been looking at she's like they don't even do the same thing anymore they're all selling other stuff but i came back to you because even though months later you're selling the same stuff but you've improved it you've added something better to it like the ai call center um and so that's what that's what we're in like what makes results is not the ai it's not oh if i give you the right funnel it's not just the ads itself it's the entire thing all together and then some it's the ai the ads and the systems and then you gotta call your leads and build that relationship and then you gotta you know do extra stuff to make sure that that relationship stays intact and that relationship grows over time you know so um when people like make videos and like yeah you just need

01:11ai no you need to have a business registration you need to have a bank account you need to have a financial literacy you know financial plan to actually be in business for six to twelve months like it's not just one thing it's multiple things done correct you know what i mean i can't tell you how many people i've done marketing for and they can't even last any industry they don't even last in an industry more than three months because they just have money for three months i'm like that's not right like this is business you're supposed to have i have a runway for two years like i can go two years without making money and i'll still be in business imagine that right so the bigger runway you have the more creativity you can do as far as building the business staying in business like that's most important thing staying in business is what most people fail at you know so you're either gonna pay with time or money yeah you're gonna pay the price anyway there's no such thing or success being handed to anybody nobody's gonna hand you success

02:25maybe in another universe but not here like it's either time or money you put a lot of time into it you might not need money because you you're doing the legwork you go to you go business to business you spend eight hours a day prospecting you might not need running ads but if you want to be in the comfort of your home and get clients coming to you then you need to pay for that luxury for that kind of service you know like you can go and hunt for your food it's free but you can also door dash it for 20 bucks right so it's either time or money and so when people bring that up to you that's how i would overcome that objection that's the thing like when you get bullshit you still gotta show up when you get good people you still gotta show up so and that's what creates successful business owners as well is that they show up whether the leaves suck or they don't suck whether they got their team suck or they don't suck they show up and that's me like whether you guys

03:30want to sell or don't sell i'm gonna show up and still call the leads and book appointments and close like i'm not gonna be waiting on nobody to really run my business for me and that's the problem too in some of business owners i see it's like yeah i paid you guys to do the marketing you do everything you do the closing i'm like that's not how it works you still have to take leadership into your own business to be like okay if my sales team is not calling i'm calling the leads if nobody's closing the leads i'm gonna jump in and close the lead right and that also creates a better sales team because your sales team sees you and they're like oh shit like this motherfucker like it's gonna make money with or without us so like might as well perform something might as well do some shit you know right um and so that's usually how it is in my agency and how it's been so um i show up and the rest is up to god everything happens accordingly you know your show up rate can always

04:40improve by confirming appointments making sure you call them to confirm before the call i call everybody 30 minutes out hey we got a call coming you got everything you got all your ducks in a row like i try to make it make it fun like lighten the mood lighten the mood a little bit like hey what's up man you got all your ducks in a row you got out of bed man like what's happening are you sleeping still i like i i literally fuck with them on purpose so you can be like pattern interrupt in their day you know that that's somebody that made them laugh a little bit you know because nobody does that nobody's so everybody's so robotic hey sir yeah i'm so and so click hello i'm so from sir click hi this is click like they don't like that sometimes from your high hi they can tell that you're a freaking salesperson you got to think about all of these things going into this in terms of you know talking to them like normal like let's say i kill i call kevin right okay kevin is interested

05:59facebook lead okay hey kevin it's usa man usa failures how's it going going good man who's this where you're calling from um yeah man look i mean i got all your info here your phone number your email uh you signed up on my ads august 31st at 10 36 a .m potentially maybe you're looking for somebody to partner up with to get some clients is that right or is that your ghost doing that what's going on man and this so you know lighting up the mood and then yeah yeah that's me you know like you know yeah i'm i'm looking for stuff like that okay kind of business are you doing see like i'm not even trying too hard kind of business are you doing i'm not even saying what kind kind of business are you doing it's like this is an everyday thing i'm not even surprised that he answered it's what i do right so you gotta like go about it like that or else they're gonna sense that you're a newbie they're gonna sense you're trying to sell them right um and so what kind of stuff do

07:11you do um plumbing whatever that uh whatever they tell you okay cool man well shit i don't even know we can if we can help you you know what are you are you making any sales right now see how i'm qualifying him i want to make sure that he is the right fit for us and that's that's the kind of position frame you gotta create not them asking you questions and you're the one yes sir yeah we do that no we don't do that no no no no hold on i gotta ask you are you making sales do you have a team do you use a crm sometimes i even ask you like who does your booking are you doing who does your who's your cpa like get into these details because if they're a legit business owner then we can help them out if they're not we can still help them out but it would be at a higher price well the main thing when you're booking them it's like it's not like booking the booking itself that's the problem because anybody can agree to an appointment right right like

08:25anybody can be like yeah i mean you gotta sell the whole thing first but you gotta kind of like build anticipation as well you know like dude you mentioned you're trying to get customers and make more money i can't wait for you to meet my guy so they you want to leave them with like their mind twisting and thinking about who is this what am i gonna see yeah yeah exactly so and so sometimes i i get a lot of appointments and i i listen to the conversation and i'm like these guys are not gonna show up and then whatever i do confirmation text email they don't show up but sometimes i listen to combos and that's present like that building of anticipation and i'm like they're gonna show up and they do show up and they do close right away right because there is an interest that was developed there so so like hey you want to make more money get more clients yes okay if i book you for an appointment to show you exactly how it's done show you the actual proof i just not just a slides

09:32deck um do you have anything set aside to invest in the business yeah of course cool um well i'm just gonna book you here would there be any reason why you wouldn't show up no man awesome i have time tomorrow can't wait dude that's this is gonna be life-changing for you and your family i can't wait for you to see what we've got in store because this is changing people's lives as we speak you know what i mean like sometimes change your tonality like whisper to them you know make it uh yeah like almost like a secret you know like i can't like between you and i i can't wait for you to see this you're gonna be mind blown the technology that the stuff we're doing is is out of this world see i'm not even telling you what it is but i'm building that anticipation you're not supposed to tell them what the actual thing is you're supposed to tell them about the results get more clients yeah and also like hey what are you at right now i'm at zero i'm at whatever they say what do

10:41you want to be 50 100k dude let's get you that 50k you want let's get you to that 100k you're looking for right because there is a goal that you're fulfilling right right but yeah you gotta ask questions you gotta ask like what is what is it that you want to fulfill bro yeah where do you want to be and sometimes those questions you can ask is when they're trying to ask you stuff like what's the price what do you guys want what do you guys do whatever they are well hold on i'm not i don't think you should go with us take it away i don't think you should you know do it with us what do you do what's your sales process do you make any revenue to even invest in marketing like that's something i need to know if i'm going to market a business do you have any runway anything set aside to like invest i've had moments in our agency where i've spent a hundred and twenty percent of our revenue which means i spent all the revenue and then some that i had to borrow

11:51to spend more on ads but that's what it takes or else you're going to be a fly-by-night guru who's only going to do it for a year and then you're going to do something else for another year something else for another year whatever comes on another year and then you wake up and nobody trusts you because you've done everything you're not good at nothing but when you do one thing really good for a long time people always come back and reward you